Tuesday, March 27, 2012
MECHANICS OF THE MATRIX
MARCH 25, 2012. We are witnessing an intensified effort, on the part of elite groups, to manage the Matrix.
This involves shaping:
political realities;
social realities;
economic realities;
medical realities;
information realities;
psychological realities;
spiritual realities.
When all is said and done, the attack is on the power and energy of the individual.
One part of my work consists in showing how the evolving medical cartel is really waging chemical warfare on the population, with toxic drugs. At the highest level, behind the curtain, the objective is to grossly weaken, physically and mentally, the body and the brain.
For example–
THE DEVASTATING TRUTH BEHIND OBAMACARE
National Health Insurance Before Supreme Court for Ruling
Last week, guest-hosting The Alex Jones Radio Show, I discussed the case of a young Michigan boy, whose parents have been taken to court three times to force them to submit their child to intensely toxic chemo treatments—despite these facts:
The boy’s latest scans reveal no sign of cancer; the drugs that would be forced on him can cause cancer; the drugs have not been approved to treat children.
And I warned: this is what waits for you and your children, up the line, if the Supreme Court allows Obamacare to stand as law.
The “share and care” humanitarian mask will be peeled away. The US Dept. of Health and Human Services will create, as mandated, a complete list of approved treatments for every disease-label under the sun. And everyone in the insurance plan (everyone in America) will be forced to take what the doctor tells them to take.
For a bonus, unapproved treatments will eventually be banned. People and practitioners who try to use alternative treatments will find themselves in trouble.
This is the hidden agenda of Obamacare. This is what it will morph into in the future—unless it is struck down as unconstitutional.
I’m not dreaming or fantasizing. I’ve been following and reporting on the medical cartel for 30 years, and I know the mindset of these people, these medical bureaucrats, these pharmaceutical string-pullers behind the scenes. Obamacare is right up their alley. It’s about control, so it’s an answer to their prayers.
What do we know about their mainstream medicine, the hospital-based drug-addled modern version?
On July 26, 2000, the Journal of theAmerican Medical Association published a landmark paper by Dr. Barbara Starfield (Johns Hopkins School of Public Health), “Is US health really the best in the world?” In it, Starfield revealed what many people inside the medical establishment already knew: every year, like clockwork, the medical system was killing huge numbers of people.
Each year in the US, as Dr. Starfield reported, there are:
12,000 deaths from unnecessary surgeries;
7,000 deaths from medication errors in hospitals;
20,000 deaths from other errors in hospitals;
80,000 deaths from infections acquired in hospitals;
106,000 deaths from FDA-approved correctly prescribed medicines.
The total of medically-caused deaths in the US every year is 225,000.
This makes the medical system the third leading cause of death in America, behind heart disease and cancer.
In the wake of Starfield’s devastating report, other facts came to light: 2.1 million people in America, every year, are hospitalized as a result of reactions to FDA-approved medicines. Annually, 36 million serious adverse reactions to those drugs occur.
So, inclusive health coverage for many more Americans under the Obama Plan means these horrendous figures will rise.
This is the dirty secret.
Obama and his allies are promoting a medical system that is the third leading cause of death in America. It’s that stark and it’s that simple.
The Obama Plan involves appointing an “expert panel” to decide what treatments Americans should be given for what diseases, under the new regime.
Only a certified idiot would assume that, over time, alternative non-mainstream therapies would survive such an ongoing vetting. Hope may spring eternal, but common sense makes it easy to grasp the realities on the ground.
In the long run, alternative therapies will be edged out. Those that remain will be permitted for a narrow range of conditions, or as adjuncts to standard drug treatments and surgery.
Chiropractors and acupuncturists, who are temporarily basking in the notion that Obama “really cares,” are in for a very rude awakening. Their careers and practices will be significantly reduced. Not today, not tomorrow, but it will happen.
Doctors, under the Plan, will be telling patients they may not take nutritional supplements while in treatment. This will assume the status of an irreversible edict. In many cases, “while in treatment” means years.
What happens to a person, conscripted into the mandated Plan, who is told by his doctor that he should/must receive a vaccine? Suppose this person says no? What are the consequences? Will he then be labeled a defector? What penalties will he suffer?
Does a diagnosis of cancer imply a patient must submit to chemotherapy, radiation, and surgery? Can these treatments be forced upon him?
Perhaps, in the early days of the Plan, nothing untoward will happen. But then, as time passes, and the system assumes tighter and tighter controls, the hand of government will close around the recalcitrant patient’s neck.
“Take this vaccine. Take this chemo drug. If you don’t, you’re out of the system, and that makes you a criminal, because everyone has to be in the system.”
Doctors, who are an integral part of the Plan, will surely be punished if they give unapproved (alternative) treatments to patients.
And in order to make the Plan operate on a day-to-day basis, the records and bookkeeping data of every health-care practitioner in America will be tracked on government computer networks.
Every person in America will have a traceable and trackable medical ID package. Government-issued. There is no way around it. The monitoring apparatus can’t work without it.
Orwellian consequences lie up the road in the field of psychiatric practice. In case you hadn’t noticed, the invention of “disorders” by committee is the preferred method for “discovering” more and more mental illnesses.
Yet, the science is completely fraudulent. For evidence, consult the many works of psychiatrist Peter Breggin, who has done more than any other person to expose the guts of his own profession. (www.breggin.com) Breggin establishes that mental disorders are not authoritatively diagnosed by a chemical or biological test. Conclusive tests do not exist. And worse, in this undefined and arbitrary territory, the drugs that follow diagnoses are killers: for example, 300,000 cases of motor brain damage, as a result of the administration of major tranquilizers.
Under the Obama Plan, you can bet your bottom dollar that psychiatric care will eventually become mandatory. A patient suddenly diagnosed with clinical depression or bipolar disease will be told he must take the drugs—and suffer their adverse effects.
Very young children will be given more and more debilitating and dangerous brain drugs.
Under the Obama Plan, it will be very convenient to declare new pandemics every few seasons, because these phony non-epidemics provide an opportunity to herd the sheep into clinics and remind them who is running the show. Go here, take this vaccine; go there, take that drug; the epidemic is endangering the herd, and you must help your brothers and sisters.
These are the figures on the last several “epidemics.” They are not yearly; they are grand totals, to date; global totals, except in the case of West Nile (US only):
SARS: 774 deaths.
WEST NILE: 1159 deaths.
BIRD FLU: 262 deaths.
SMALLPOX: (terrorist threat): 0 deaths.
SWINE FLU: 25,000 deaths.
To give perspective, globally, 250 thousand to 500 thousand people die of ordinary flu-like illness every year. Yet this higher death rate accrues no interest as an epidemic. It is only the “teaching (brainwashing) moments” of the phony epidemics that are promoted by health agencies (e.g., CDC and WHO) and their pharmaceutical allies, who rake in billions by manufacturing new vaccines.
Yes, under the Obama Plan, there will be more declared health emergencies, and they will serve to cement the citizen to his new role as eternal patient in the medical march along bleak streets of the future.
Can you perceive the loss of individual freedom implicit in this universal system of health control?
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Sources and comments: I’m fully aware that people reading the facts in this essay will be shocked, and they will have doubts. Here are the sources for those facts. Things are not what they seem.
Barbara Starfield, “Is US health really the best in the world?” JAMA, July 26, 2000. Contains statistics on medically-caused deaths in the US.
On January 8, 2001, the LA Times ran a piece by Linda Marsa on the effects of medical drugs in the US. Predictably, the story sank like a stone. It provoked no Congressional hearings, no arrests.
The article described, in a few key paragraphs, a world of trouble. Adverse medical events, from med drugs:
“A 1998 University of Toronto study found that roughly 100,000 Americans die of adverse [medical-drug] reactions each year, and 2.1 million more are hospitalized.”
Marsa offered, in her Times article, a quote from an associate professor of medicine at Harvard, Dr. David Bates, an author of a 2000 study on drug effects. The study found that “18 percent of patients complained of drug-related complications,” Marsa wrote.
Here is the quote from Dr. Bates: “People often have [drug-caused] symptoms for months, but they’re either reluctant to let their doctor know or they weren’t sure if they just felt lousy…But these numbers translate to 36 million adverse drug events per year.”
To add up the death totals from recent phony epidemics:
SARS—See WHO “Summary of probable SARS cases with onset of illness from 1 November 2002 to 31 July 2003” (based on data as of Dec.31, 2003).
BIRD FLU—See WHO “Confirmed Human Cases of Avian Influenza A (H5N1)” (24 September 2009)
WEST NILE—See CDC, West Nile Virus, Statistics, Surveillance, and Control. Years are reported separately, 1999-2009. I included only US cases because I couldn’t find a good source for global cases.
To confirm that every year, between 250,000 and 500,000 people die from ordinary flu, see WHO Fact Sheet No.211, Influenza (Seasonal).
Read Dr. Peter Breggin’s classic, Toxic Psychiatry, St. Martin’s Press, 1991. Follow Breggin’s argument, through several chapters; labeled mental disorders are not based on factual biological evidence; and see p.89-91 for evidence that at least 300,000 people are suffering from brain damage (tardive dyskinesia) as a result of being administered major tranquilizers.
Founded in 1992, the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM), a minor bureau of the National Institutes of Health (a federal agency), has managed to derail, stall, and divert the progress of real alternative medicine. It has forwarded no breakthroughs. It has bogged itself down in conferences, reports, and committee deliberations. It has fooled a number of so-called alternative-health advocates into believing that the federal government supports non-mainstream health strategies.
Imagine what would happen when healthcare in this country becomes centralized to a much greater degree under the Obama Plan. If this one tiny agency, NCCAM, can now befuddle the alternative field with a collection of inept and self-seeking bureaucrats, gargantuan power held at the top of the federal government will make that diversion look like a raindrop in a hurricane.
The history of the decline of infectious disease is a history of improved sanitation, alleviation of overcrowding, the rise of the middle class, and above all, the betterment of nutrition. This decline in disease occurred before the introduction of antibiotics and widespread vaccination. (See Ivan Illich, Medical Nemesis) Under massively centralized medical care, in an environment where chemically saturated agri-business grows our food in depleted topsoil, there is a greater and greater need for nutritional supplements. But this vital avenue will be narrowed and blocked in the ways I have indicated above.
Last but not least, medical-research fraud continues unabated, an out-of-control rampant crime.
See, for example, “20 Percent Of Cancer Studies Report Conflict of Interest,” ScienceDaily (May 13, 2009): “Nearly one-third of cancer research published in high-impact journals disclosed a conflict of interest, according to a new study from researchers at the University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center…”
Also, from the Boston Globe (Boston.com, August 15, 2005), “Flaws are found in validating medical studies; many see need to overhaul standards for peer review”:
“…after a study that sent reverberations through the medical profession by finding that almost one-third of top research articles have been either contradicted or seriously questioned, some specialists are calling for radical changes in the system…almost one-third of the top papers that appeared in top journals over a 13-year period from 1990 to 2003, had been either contradicted or found to have potentially exaggerated results. All the articles had [prior to publication] undergone vigorous peer review, leading to questions about whether problems should have been caught by reviewers…”
What does this epidemic of cheating and lying in medical research add up to? New dangerous drugs will continue to be approved for public use, by the government. The dangers of the drugs will be hidden in fabricated studies published in prestigious journals.
As the Supreme Court deliberates on whether the individual mandate in Obama’s healthplan implies a penalty or tax if people opt out, and as the Court mumbles its way through questions about the Commerce Clause of the Constitution—which was never written to permit Congress to command people to buy health insurance—the real secret is concealed.
This insurance plan will capture more and more of the population in the cross-hairs of chemical warfare. No amount of squirming or arguing is going to change that.
Jon Rappoport is the author of a new collection, THE MATRIX REVEALED. Jon has worked as an independent investigative reporter since 1982. The LA Weekly nominated him for a Pulitzer Prize, for a interview he did with the president of El Salvador University, where the military had taken over the campus and was disappearing students and burning books. He has written for In These Times, Village Voice, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, CBS Healthwatch, Stern. His work can be found at www.nomorefakenews.com
qjrconsulting@gmail.com
Monday, March 26, 2012
Feeding the PINEAL GLAND
Foods that Feed The Pineal Gland
Our pineal gland otherwise known as our master gland or the gland that governs over our third eye is the center of psychic awareness in the human mind. It is about the size of a pea and sits inside a cave located behind the pituitary gland. It naturally produces a hormone called melatonin which regulates human daily body rhythms that deal directly with the day and night cycles. Developing and expanding the function and the energy of your pineal gland is extremely important as it affects every system in your body physically and it has the potential to determine the expansion or the contraction of your psychic awareness, consciousness, and experience. Sunlight is extremely important for the pineal gland and yes sunlight is a form of food as food is any substance that nourishes the body. Sunlight can be taken in and digested through the eyes, skin, hair, nose hairs, and ears and should be consumed for at least 30 minutes a day. To fully engage the pineal gland, sunlight should be taken in through the pupils.
Seaweed vegetables that are sun-dried by the sun contain high amounts of vitamin D, many vitamins in the B-vitamin family and iodine. Those vegetables include and are not limited to kombu, arame, wakame, dulse, nori, etc.
Dark leafy greens like our kale, turnip greens, mustard greens, bok choy, collard greens etc are extremely nourishing for the pineal gland as this gland absorbs the properties of the green color of the vegetables and properly distributes them to the appropriate systems of the body so that the body is thoroughly nourished.
Consuming meats including fish that has high amounts of mercury, carbonated beverages, fluoride in our water and our toothpaste and access to smog negatively affect the pineal gland and can block its ability to function properly. When you consume meat from an animal, you are ingesting the DNA of that animal and therefore taking on the negative and positive experiences of an animal which could interrupt the ability of the pineal gland to take on its own psychic awareness blueprint of the individual.
The proper foods can positively affect your pineal gland but you can also activate your pineal gland by eating more of a raw foods, vegan, or vegetarian diet, running an ozone machine in your home to clean up the air in your home, and drinking filtered water. As much as the pineal gland needs sunlight, it also needs to produce enough serotonin to be activated so that it can increase its psychic awareness therefore serotonin is produced when the brain is asleep and therefore sleeping in a very dark room is extremely nourishing for the pineal gland as well. Foods that produce serotonin are almonds, bananas, hot peppers, rice, potatoes, and black-eyed peas and when consumed can also nourish and feed the pineal gland as well.
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Nwenna Kai is the author of The Goddess of Raw Foodsavailable for purchase at www.amazon.com and the upcoming children’s book, The MoreLove’s coming September 2010. You can get the FREE e-book Nwenna Kai’s Holiday Recipes at her website www.nwennakai.com by signing up for her weekly e-newsletter at her website. She is the previous owner of Taste of the Goddess Cafe, one of LA’s pioneering organic raw food cafes. She is the 2007 winner of the Elizabeth Dole Young Entrepreneurial Scholarship sponsored by Women Impacting Public Policy (WIPP) for her work as a health and wellness entrepreneur. Visit her website at www.the-guide-to-raw-foods.com and her blog at www.theguidetorawfoods.com/blogspot.com.
Source: http://2012indyinfo.com/2012/03/25/the-guide-to-raw-foods-foods-that-feed-the-pineal-gland/
Sunday, March 4, 2012
Louis Pasteur vs. Antoine Bechamp
Know the True Causes of Disease
Mainstream medicine believes that virtually all illness is caused by germs or genetic hereditary weakness, as well as deformities and trauma injuries. Their solution and strategy is to have us believe that there are over 10,000 different diseases and that each of these diseases requires outside intervention from drugs and surgery. The truth is that most illness is due to cellular malfunction caused by cellular toxicities and cellular malnutrition, both of which can be avoided and overcome naturally.It was Louis Pasteur, the so-called "father of modern germ theory" so widely revered by mainstream medicine, who was largely responsible for germ theory being a primary precept of today`s medical practice. Few people are aware of the controversy which surrounded Pasteur in his early days or of the work of a more esteemed contemporary whose works Pasteur plagiarized and distorted. That contemporary was fellow French Academy of Sciences member Antoine Bechamp, one of France`s most prominent and active researchers and biologists whose theories and research results stood in stark opposition to Pasteur`s germ theory.
Pasteur essentially dug up the germ theory of disease and put his name on it. It wasn`t a new idea. The concept, which theorizes that many diseases are caused by germs, had actually been outlined by other people many years before. Pasteur nevertheless claimed to have "discovered" germs. Bechamp, on the other hand, proved through original research that most diseases are the result of diseased tissue and that bacteria and viruses are largely after-effects instead of causes of disease.
Antoine Bechamp was able to scientifically prove that germs are the chemical by-products and constituents of pleomorphic microorganisms enacting upon the unbalanced, malfunctioning cell metabolism and dead tissue that actually produces disease. Bechamp found that the diseased, acidic, low-oxygen cellular environment is created by a toxic/nutrient deficient diet, toxic emotions, and a toxic lifestyle. His findings demonstrate how cancer develops through the morbid changes of germs to bacteria, bacteria to viruses, viruses to fungal forms and fungal forms to cancer cells.
After some initial controversy, Pasteur`s germ theory ended up winning the day with mainstream medicine - owing in large part to the fact that the theory enabled mainstream medicine to hugely profit from the patented drugs and treatments for fighting germs. After all, had Bechamp`s discoveries been incorporated into current medical curriculum, it would likely have meant a virtual elimination of disease and the end of the pharmaceutical industry.
The germ theory of medicine stands in stark contrast to thousands of years of man looking to nature to nourish and heal it, dating back to ancient Chinese medicine which treated the whole body instead of the symptoms of illness. As Hippocrates, "the father of medicine" observed 2400 years ago, "Nature is the physician of man." Hippocrates also advised, "Leave your drugs in the chemist`s pots if you can cure your patient with food."
Though mainstream medicine might have us believe otherwise, the simple truth is that no one ever became ill due to a deficiency in pharmaceutical drugs. Lack of nutrition combined with exposure to toxins is what causes us to become ill.
Someday, germ theory and unnatural drugs will be relegated to the science junk pile where they belong and man will re-discover the value of eating a nutrient-dense organic diet, avoiding toxins and nutritional deficiencies and living a healthy lifestyle. When that happens, the words of Thomas Edison may prove to be a welcome prophesy:
"The doctor of the future will give no medicine but will interest his patients in the care of the human frame, in diet and in the cause and prevention of disease."
Research Guide: http://www.AdvancedHealthPlan.com
Tuesday, February 15, 2011
Danger of Bragg Liquid Aminos
Bragg Liquid Aminos: History Repeats Itself
Every so often the following group of articles enjoys a resurgence of airtime in the raw-food community. Since we've noticed them on a few email groups recetly, we thought it would make a good addition to our daily digest:
Bragg Liquid Aminos: Poison
by David Klein, 1997
http://www.livingnutrition.com
Below is information I received from an associate on the saltiness of Bragg Liquid Aminos. Below is the text from her letter. Before I get to it, I'll give some background information on her, so you'll know where she is coming from.
Griselda Blazey has a B.S. in biology, a M.S. is biochemistry, and a Ph.D. (actually a post-doctorate) in endocrinology. She also has a degree from the now defunct College of Dietary Therapy in England. She authored a book, "Food Matters", and a workbook called, "Nutritional Transformation", and used to teach a course by that name. She has been teaching cell physiology, metabolic disorders, and nutrition at Life Chiropractic College West, in San Leandro, California for the past four years. The first time I heard her theory on the saltiness of Bragg Liquid Aminos was during a lecture she gave at a San Francisco Living Foods Support Group meeting a few years ago. Here is the text from her recent letter:
Bragg Liquid Aminos: Poison
by David Klein, 1997
http://www.livingnutrition.com
Below is information I received from an associate on the saltiness of Bragg Liquid Aminos. Below is the text from her letter. Before I get to it, I'll give some background information on her, so you'll know where she is coming from.
Griselda Blazey has a B.S. in biology, a M.S. is biochemistry, and a Ph.D. (actually a post-doctorate) in endocrinology. She also has a degree from the now defunct College of Dietary Therapy in England. She authored a book, "Food Matters", and a workbook called, "Nutritional Transformation", and used to teach a course by that name. She has been teaching cell physiology, metabolic disorders, and nutrition at Life Chiropractic College West, in San Leandro, California for the past four years. The first time I heard her theory on the saltiness of Bragg Liquid Aminos was during a lecture she gave at a San Francisco Living Foods Support Group meeting a few years ago. Here is the text from her recent letter:
"The other topic you asked about in your letter was about how Bragg Aminos are made. Once again, here's an armchair biologist's answer, meaning that I don't know this for sure, but it's the only thing that makes scientific sense. If I were given some vegetable protein and were asked to make it into amino acids without spending a lot of money on it, I would boil it up with some hydrochloric acid. This would break it down to amino acids, but of course it would be too acidic to be palatable. So I
would then neutralize the acid with baking soda, causing the reaction mixture to look like this:
2HCl + Na2CO3 ===> 2NaCl + CO2 + H2O
So the salt gets made by mistake as it were. Now someone (I forget who) followed up on this and contacted the Bragg company to ask if this was how they did it, and they denied it. However, they didn't disclose how they do actually do it, so in the absence of correct information, and with an extremely salty taste in their product, I still consider the above process to play at least some part in their procedure."
That's it. We don't know for sure. All I know is that Griselda has an impressive mind for original theoretical scientific thought, and I sure felt awful after having a bit of Bragg a several years ago.
Hope you find her theory interesting and worthy of second-thinking the inclusion of the Bragg product in recipes.
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From the http://www.living-foods.com forum
Subject: RE: Bragg liquid aminos IS POISON
Author: Dave Klein, board moderator
Date: 08-06-1999 14:34
It looks like we finally got some proof from the Bragg company that the liquid aminos product is heat processed and made with hydrochloric acid. Salt apparently forms in its processing, plus
glutamic acid which is the same poison which is in MSG. Many many raw fooders have apparently been lied to and duped by the Bragg who have until recently stated that the product is all raw
and not processed with heat or chemicals. And many many folks like myself become ill very soon after ingesting the crap. Sea salt is less deadly than Bragg Liquid Aminos, but then I prefer
tomatoes to get minerals salts in my diet when I want to enjoy salty flavors. Try adding sun
dried tomatoes to salads too.
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From the http://www.living-foods.com Forum
"My point" by Michael
18/06/99 05:59:17
After reading the speculations about Bragg Liquid Aminos posted on this forum and hearing horror stories from others (my sister talked with a man who said he quit using it because it gave him nightmares) I decided to just jump right out and ask the Bragg company themselves.
Decide for yourself if you feel like using it.
1. Is hydrochloric acid used at any time in the production of Bragg Liquid Aminos? I have been told that it is used to separate the aminos from the soybeans (like isolated soy protein) and gives it the salty flavor.
Yes, our product is hydrolized in the process.
2. Are you aware of the dangerous effects of glutamic acid within the human body? Do you plan on taking measures to remove glutamic acid from Bragg Liquid Aminos?
The glutamic acid is naturally occurring and cannot be isolated to remove it as an individual amino acid. In our laboratory results analyses show that the Liquid Aminos contain no monosodium
glutamate.
3. If BLA is neither heat processed nor fermented, could you please explain why it does not turn rancid at room temperature as opposed to requiring refrigeration?
Our liquid aminos does go rancid if kept out of the cupboard or out of the refrigerator. We suggest storing in a cupboard or the refrigerator. It is the same reason ketchup or soy sauce, or jam,
or peanut butter do not go bad if kept in the cupboard. Eventually they will all go bad.
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A group e-mail message:
November 2, 1998
Hi all:
A while back we were had chatted here and questioned whether above has msg or not and Patricia Bragg said NO.
We'll here's some info. that says yes, and FDA had her remove her NO MSG label. You can check on the documentation self. A friend sent this is who a researcher. I don't have his permission
to release his name, but this should ans. the question on YES, above has MSG per FDA.
"MSG-sensitive people react to any glutamic acid that has been freed from protein through a manufacturing process providing that they ingest an amount that exceeds their individual tolerance
for the substance. Consequently, consumers refer to all processed free glutamic acid as MSG. This fact was acknowledged by the FDA in the "FDA Backgrounder" dated August 31, 1995.
Under Section 403 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act it is deceptive and misleading to say "No MSG" or "No MSG added" on a processed food label that contains free glutamic acid. It is for this reason that the FDA forced Live Products, manufacturer of Bragg Liquid Aminos, to remove the words "No MSG" from the product's label."
Hugs,
Carol, CO
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Some "Salty" Advice by Art Baker
Forget the Bragg Liquid Aminos and try this: Dehydrate celery and lemon. As the celery dries out it hardens and becomes thin like floss. Place both in a coffee grinder and pulverize into powder. The powder is very salty, with a slight celery flavor, making it a great addition to guacamole, salsa, raw soups, crackers, etc.
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Subject: bragg's
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 23:07:58 -0800
From: "Ruth Wilner" <rwilner@newspress.com>
To: dave@livingnutrition.com.
Dear Dave, Was there an article in your publication about Bragg's Liquid Aminos being made with hydrocloric acid and therefore a dead-food, not a live food like Patricia Bragg claims? I am asking because I used to work for Patricia and I know the truth about the liquid aminos. I am considering telling it all and need to know if there is anyone in the health food field that would like to know if I spill the beans. Thanks for your help.
Ruth Wilner.
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Subject: bragg's
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:16:51 -0800
From: "Ruth Wilner" <rwilner@newspress.com>
To: dave@livingnutrition.com
Dave, I did get your reply and I thank you. I replied to your email and suggested that I will let you know when I am ready to procede. People are telling me that I might be under a law about trade secrets or something and I am looking into that. I did buy a website called notbragg.com however, I haven't done anything with it yet. I will get back to you, I promise. Ruth
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From: konajack@webtv.net (K J)
To: dave@livingnutrition.com
Dave - I've just gotten up to and finished reading Volume 9 of the back issues. I just saw the 'warning' you posted on Bragg's Aminos. I, too, was a victim of this crap. I used it liberally for at
least two years and upon fasting, what I noticed was the smell of this substance coming out of my body whereupon I knew that whatever it was, it wasn't a substance the body was able to use contrary to what the bottle has printed on it. I broke that particular fast at 10 days even
though I knew I needed to go longer as the smell was still coming out. That's the good news. The bad news is that I now have noticeable varicose veins on the back of my left thigh, right back knee cap and in both calves theveins stick out also. I know it was the Braggs as my diet other than that was pretty clean and I observe all the other tenets of NH. That stuff hardened up my veins and arteries. I was playing volleyball 2 1/2 years ago and went up to hit the ball and felt something snap in the back of my left thigh. My tissues was so ossified, I snapped a tendon or some muscle tissue and crawled off the court. It took two weeks in bed and off my legs and another two weeks of walking like a cripple before I regained the ability to walk normally.
I did a 15 day fast last September and could smell the Braggs coming out again but this time I got it all. Unfortunately the varicosed veins are still there. I don't think there's anything short of surgical removal that will disappear them. Have you heard of anyone disappearing them hygienically or otherwise non-surgically? Just thought I'd share my experience with Braggs in case that will help others you may choose to share same with.
Aloha,
Jack
Jack M. Ebner, Ph.D.
Biophysiology
Kailua-Kona, Hawaii
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Subject: Re: bragg's
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 21:35:57 -0700
From: Ruth Wilner <rwilner@newspress.com>
To: <dave@livingnutrition.com>
Dave,
The factory that makes the liquid aminos is named Walker Foods and it is in LA somewhere. I think that the recipe is a trade secret and they will not divulge how it is made...but I don't think
they can deny the hydrocloric acid.
I did NOT work at Walker Foods. I worked for Patricia Bragg at her headquarters in Goleta, California. I was aware of the process by which liquid aminos was made, but never witnessed
it being made.
I heard it through reliable sources that the soybean slurry (collected from soybean left-overs) is covered with hydrocloric acid in vats and left to "digest" .
The beans and acid mixture produces it's own heat, Patricia denies that it is heated beyond 98° and I tend to believe that.
I think Patricia tells people it is simply made with beans in barrels of water for obvious reasons. She is a self-proclaimed health crusader and I think she really wants to believe that it is made with pure distilled water only. She also doesn't want to loose her customers, or credibility with her health followers. She will not even listen to others who tell her that mislabeling a product is not honest, nor legal.
If you think about it, hydrocloric acid is a natural product, produced by our bodies every second of everyday we live. It is what digests our food and supplies nutrition to our bodies. There is nothing unhealthy about hydrocloric acid. What is unhealthy is the addition of the base to nutralize the acid...this is what gives the beans the salty flavor...I believe it to be something on the
order of baking soda, another product that is not inherently bad for us in small quantities.
Bragg does not isolate any of the proteins released by the hydrocloric bath. The liquid that rises to the surface in the procedure is skimmed off, nutralized and bottled, making it concentrated protien.
So, is this bad? I believe that the product is not unhealthy. It is salty tasting but tests at only 10% of table salt. It tests with no msg detected at all except for a trace of glutamic acid (an amino
acid.) Why then does Bragg deny the addition of hydrocloric acid and the base to nutralize it? I am at a loss to explain that.
I hope this helps you with your questions. Please get back to me with your thoughts. Ruth
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From: Madelyn Hill
Subject: LABELING LAWS DON'T 'BRAG' ABOUT HIDING MSG IN
AMINO ACIDS
MSG is the sodium salt of the AMINO ACID glutamic acid and a form of glutamate. Read on and you will see how the labeling laws permit it to be hidden in everything from soap to vitamins to condiments to food. Hydrolyzed proteins or protein hydrolysates are acid treated or enzymatically treated which contain salts of free AMINO ACIDS.
MSG can aggravate existing conditions or cause burning sensations, rapid heartbeat, asthma and neurological damage. That's just within 3 hours of use. Becomes less safe depending on quantities ingested or applied and condition of one's health.
Overextended periods of time, studies show it can cause cancer, MS, MSG symptom complex, brain lesions, nerve cell damage, gastrointestinal problems and so on. The body uses glutamate as a nerve impulse transmitter with glutamate response tissues inothers parts of the body as well. Abnormal function of glutamate receptors have been linked to most every type of neurological disease including Alzheimers, Huntington's chorea.
The level of other vitamins in your system (including B6) can also determine the impact it can have.
MSG goes under many names including monosodium glutamate. Do you know what glutamate is? AN AMINO ACID.
MSG is only one type of free glutamate, so foods stating no MSG or no added MSG can be misleading, as hydrolyzed protein is a form of free glutamate.
Monosodium glutamate goes under the name of glutamate, AMINO ACID, monosodium glutamate, glutamic acid, calcium caseinate, sodium caseinate, gelatin, textured protein, hydrolyzed protein, yeast extract. Most of the time, containing MSG are malt, barley malt, boullion, stock, carrageenan,
maltodextrin, whey protein, pectin (anything enzyme modified). NATURAL FLAVORS, protein fortified, soy protein.
The following can be used to create MSG: protease enzymes, fungal protease.
MSG can be used in soaps, shampoos, hair conditioners. The most common hiding places are in ingredients called 'hydrolyzed proteins and, amino acids.
Aspartic acid found in aspartame and nutra sweet causes MSG reactions.
Binders and fillers for medications, nutrients and supplements may contain MSG.
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Dave Klein
Living Nutrition
http://www.livingnutrition.com
Raw Passion Productions
http://www.raw-passion.com
Healthful Living International
http://www.naturalhygiene.info
would then neutralize the acid with baking soda, causing the reaction mixture to look like this:
2HCl + Na2CO3 ===> 2NaCl + CO2 + H2O
So the salt gets made by mistake as it were. Now someone (I forget who) followed up on this and contacted the Bragg company to ask if this was how they did it, and they denied it. However, they didn't disclose how they do actually do it, so in the absence of correct information, and with an extremely salty taste in their product, I still consider the above process to play at least some part in their procedure."
That's it. We don't know for sure. All I know is that Griselda has an impressive mind for original theoretical scientific thought, and I sure felt awful after having a bit of Bragg a several years ago.
Hope you find her theory interesting and worthy of second-thinking the inclusion of the Bragg product in recipes.
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From the http://www.living-foods.com forum
Subject: RE: Bragg liquid aminos IS POISON
Author: Dave Klein, board moderator
Date: 08-06-1999 14:34
It looks like we finally got some proof from the Bragg company that the liquid aminos product is heat processed and made with hydrochloric acid. Salt apparently forms in its processing, plus
glutamic acid which is the same poison which is in MSG. Many many raw fooders have apparently been lied to and duped by the Bragg who have until recently stated that the product is all raw
and not processed with heat or chemicals. And many many folks like myself become ill very soon after ingesting the crap. Sea salt is less deadly than Bragg Liquid Aminos, but then I prefer
tomatoes to get minerals salts in my diet when I want to enjoy salty flavors. Try adding sun
dried tomatoes to salads too.
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From the http://www.living-foods.com Forum
"My point" by Michael
18/06/99 05:59:17
After reading the speculations about Bragg Liquid Aminos posted on this forum and hearing horror stories from others (my sister talked with a man who said he quit using it because it gave him nightmares) I decided to just jump right out and ask the Bragg company themselves.
Decide for yourself if you feel like using it.
1. Is hydrochloric acid used at any time in the production of Bragg Liquid Aminos? I have been told that it is used to separate the aminos from the soybeans (like isolated soy protein) and gives it the salty flavor.
Yes, our product is hydrolized in the process.
2. Are you aware of the dangerous effects of glutamic acid within the human body? Do you plan on taking measures to remove glutamic acid from Bragg Liquid Aminos?
The glutamic acid is naturally occurring and cannot be isolated to remove it as an individual amino acid. In our laboratory results analyses show that the Liquid Aminos contain no monosodium
glutamate.
3. If BLA is neither heat processed nor fermented, could you please explain why it does not turn rancid at room temperature as opposed to requiring refrigeration?
Our liquid aminos does go rancid if kept out of the cupboard or out of the refrigerator. We suggest storing in a cupboard or the refrigerator. It is the same reason ketchup or soy sauce, or jam,
or peanut butter do not go bad if kept in the cupboard. Eventually they will all go bad.
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A group e-mail message:
November 2, 1998
Hi all:
A while back we were had chatted here and questioned whether above has msg or not and Patricia Bragg said NO.
We'll here's some info. that says yes, and FDA had her remove her NO MSG label. You can check on the documentation self. A friend sent this is who a researcher. I don't have his permission
to release his name, but this should ans. the question on YES, above has MSG per FDA.
"MSG-sensitive people react to any glutamic acid that has been freed from protein through a manufacturing process providing that they ingest an amount that exceeds their individual tolerance
for the substance. Consequently, consumers refer to all processed free glutamic acid as MSG. This fact was acknowledged by the FDA in the "FDA Backgrounder" dated August 31, 1995.
Under Section 403 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act it is deceptive and misleading to say "No MSG" or "No MSG added" on a processed food label that contains free glutamic acid. It is for this reason that the FDA forced Live Products, manufacturer of Bragg Liquid Aminos, to remove the words "No MSG" from the product's label."
Hugs,
Carol, CO
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Some "Salty" Advice by Art Baker
Forget the Bragg Liquid Aminos and try this: Dehydrate celery and lemon. As the celery dries out it hardens and becomes thin like floss. Place both in a coffee grinder and pulverize into powder. The powder is very salty, with a slight celery flavor, making it a great addition to guacamole, salsa, raw soups, crackers, etc.
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Subject: bragg's
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 23:07:58 -0800
From: "Ruth Wilner" <rwilner@newspress.com>
To: dave@livingnutrition.com.
Dear Dave, Was there an article in your publication about Bragg's Liquid Aminos being made with hydrocloric acid and therefore a dead-food, not a live food like Patricia Bragg claims? I am asking because I used to work for Patricia and I know the truth about the liquid aminos. I am considering telling it all and need to know if there is anyone in the health food field that would like to know if I spill the beans. Thanks for your help.
Ruth Wilner.
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Subject: bragg's
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:16:51 -0800
From: "Ruth Wilner" <rwilner@newspress.com>
To: dave@livingnutrition.com
Dave, I did get your reply and I thank you. I replied to your email and suggested that I will let you know when I am ready to procede. People are telling me that I might be under a law about trade secrets or something and I am looking into that. I did buy a website called notbragg.com however, I haven't done anything with it yet. I will get back to you, I promise. Ruth
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From: konajack@webtv.net (K J)
To: dave@livingnutrition.com
Dave - I've just gotten up to and finished reading Volume 9 of the back issues. I just saw the 'warning' you posted on Bragg's Aminos. I, too, was a victim of this crap. I used it liberally for at
least two years and upon fasting, what I noticed was the smell of this substance coming out of my body whereupon I knew that whatever it was, it wasn't a substance the body was able to use contrary to what the bottle has printed on it. I broke that particular fast at 10 days even
though I knew I needed to go longer as the smell was still coming out. That's the good news. The bad news is that I now have noticeable varicose veins on the back of my left thigh, right back knee cap and in both calves theveins stick out also. I know it was the Braggs as my diet other than that was pretty clean and I observe all the other tenets of NH. That stuff hardened up my veins and arteries. I was playing volleyball 2 1/2 years ago and went up to hit the ball and felt something snap in the back of my left thigh. My tissues was so ossified, I snapped a tendon or some muscle tissue and crawled off the court. It took two weeks in bed and off my legs and another two weeks of walking like a cripple before I regained the ability to walk normally.
I did a 15 day fast last September and could smell the Braggs coming out again but this time I got it all. Unfortunately the varicosed veins are still there. I don't think there's anything short of surgical removal that will disappear them. Have you heard of anyone disappearing them hygienically or otherwise non-surgically? Just thought I'd share my experience with Braggs in case that will help others you may choose to share same with.
Aloha,
Jack
Jack M. Ebner, Ph.D.
Biophysiology
Kailua-Kona, Hawaii
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Subject: Re: bragg's
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 21:35:57 -0700
From: Ruth Wilner <rwilner@newspress.com>
To: <dave@livingnutrition.com>
Dave,
The factory that makes the liquid aminos is named Walker Foods and it is in LA somewhere. I think that the recipe is a trade secret and they will not divulge how it is made...but I don't think
they can deny the hydrocloric acid.
I did NOT work at Walker Foods. I worked for Patricia Bragg at her headquarters in Goleta, California. I was aware of the process by which liquid aminos was made, but never witnessed
it being made.
I heard it through reliable sources that the soybean slurry (collected from soybean left-overs) is covered with hydrocloric acid in vats and left to "digest" .
The beans and acid mixture produces it's own heat, Patricia denies that it is heated beyond 98° and I tend to believe that.
I think Patricia tells people it is simply made with beans in barrels of water for obvious reasons. She is a self-proclaimed health crusader and I think she really wants to believe that it is made with pure distilled water only. She also doesn't want to loose her customers, or credibility with her health followers. She will not even listen to others who tell her that mislabeling a product is not honest, nor legal.
If you think about it, hydrocloric acid is a natural product, produced by our bodies every second of everyday we live. It is what digests our food and supplies nutrition to our bodies. There is nothing unhealthy about hydrocloric acid. What is unhealthy is the addition of the base to nutralize the acid...this is what gives the beans the salty flavor...I believe it to be something on the
order of baking soda, another product that is not inherently bad for us in small quantities.
Bragg does not isolate any of the proteins released by the hydrocloric bath. The liquid that rises to the surface in the procedure is skimmed off, nutralized and bottled, making it concentrated protien.
So, is this bad? I believe that the product is not unhealthy. It is salty tasting but tests at only 10% of table salt. It tests with no msg detected at all except for a trace of glutamic acid (an amino
acid.) Why then does Bragg deny the addition of hydrocloric acid and the base to nutralize it? I am at a loss to explain that.
I hope this helps you with your questions. Please get back to me with your thoughts. Ruth
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From: Madelyn Hill
Subject: LABELING LAWS DON'T 'BRAG' ABOUT HIDING MSG IN
AMINO ACIDS
MSG is the sodium salt of the AMINO ACID glutamic acid and a form of glutamate. Read on and you will see how the labeling laws permit it to be hidden in everything from soap to vitamins to condiments to food. Hydrolyzed proteins or protein hydrolysates are acid treated or enzymatically treated which contain salts of free AMINO ACIDS.
MSG can aggravate existing conditions or cause burning sensations, rapid heartbeat, asthma and neurological damage. That's just within 3 hours of use. Becomes less safe depending on quantities ingested or applied and condition of one's health.
Overextended periods of time, studies show it can cause cancer, MS, MSG symptom complex, brain lesions, nerve cell damage, gastrointestinal problems and so on. The body uses glutamate as a nerve impulse transmitter with glutamate response tissues inothers parts of the body as well. Abnormal function of glutamate receptors have been linked to most every type of neurological disease including Alzheimers, Huntington's chorea.
The level of other vitamins in your system (including B6) can also determine the impact it can have.
MSG goes under many names including monosodium glutamate. Do you know what glutamate is? AN AMINO ACID.
MSG is only one type of free glutamate, so foods stating no MSG or no added MSG can be misleading, as hydrolyzed protein is a form of free glutamate.
Monosodium glutamate goes under the name of glutamate, AMINO ACID, monosodium glutamate, glutamic acid, calcium caseinate, sodium caseinate, gelatin, textured protein, hydrolyzed protein, yeast extract. Most of the time, containing MSG are malt, barley malt, boullion, stock, carrageenan,
maltodextrin, whey protein, pectin (anything enzyme modified). NATURAL FLAVORS, protein fortified, soy protein.
The following can be used to create MSG: protease enzymes, fungal protease.
MSG can be used in soaps, shampoos, hair conditioners. The most common hiding places are in ingredients called 'hydrolyzed proteins and, amino acids.
Aspartic acid found in aspartame and nutra sweet causes MSG reactions.
Binders and fillers for medications, nutrients and supplements may contain MSG.
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Dave Klein
Living Nutrition
http://www.livingnutrition.com
Raw Passion Productions
http://www.raw-passion.com
Healthful Living International
http://www.naturalhygiene.info
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I have very mixed feelings about the Bragg family now.
On the one hand, I am very grateful. On the other hand, i feel totally betrayed.
When i was desperately sick 15 years ago, I discovered the book "The Miracle of Fasting", and it literally saved my life. I have used fasting to cleanse and purify myself ever since and have achieved a level of health that would have otherwise been impossible. It was as if i was reborn and a had a new lease on life - perfect health.
In all of Bragg's books, they touted their Liquid Aminos as a type of health product that helped you build muscle. I tried it and was instanly hooked. For the past 15 years, I have been using it on just about everything.
Over the past many years, my health gradually began to deteriorate again. I dont smoke, drink, or have any other bad health habits. I eat very healthy. But something was wrong and i couldnt put my finger on it.
Every time i fasted in the past 5 years, i became very ill - even after 9 days when the bulk of the toxins should have already been released for someone with a healthy diet like mine. During the fasts, i could tell a horrible substance was trying to be released, but I couldnt remain on the fast long enough to cleanse myself of it completely. The smell was horrible.
During a recent fast, i discovered this and other information that made me research Liquid Aminos more and discovered that this was not a health product at all. It was literally poisoning me. I truly believe that.
I stopped using it completely, and have gradually begun to feel my health return.
I cannot believe that Bragg's would do this to the public that trusts them with their lives as I did. I hope they come to their senses and pull this product ASAP.
- I didnt say i was sick for 15 years. I said i was sick 15 years ago. And i didnt say that Bragg "products" made me get better. I said it was their books and the knowledge of how to purify my body through fasting that saved my life. Try reading my post again with a bit more brain power, and then try replying in English. I believe Paul Bragg Sr was a good man and wrote many excellent books on clean living that can truly help people find health. Im sure he truly believed that his liquid aminos product was a healthy replacement for salt. However, new science has proven that Liquid Aminos is NOT good for you at all. The Bragg family of today seems to be more interested in profit than making people healthy. This product should be pulled immediately.1 person liked this.
- I too feel betrayed by the Bragg family for allowing this dirty secret to smear their good name. It is poison--I have experiencial knowledge of it and the Braggs do wrong to themselves and to their customers to run from this problem. Dear Braggs, I have known you for 29 years. I have read all your books and have lived well by them. But this Bragg Aminos is against nature. It is wrong. It is poison. By not doing the right thing on this you hurt all the good you have done for so many years and so many people.
Sincerely,
Valerie Cordova - Interesting - A recent thread on GITMR brought about the discussion of MSG. I posted a list of products containing MSG: http://msgmyth.com/hidename.ht... & was really surprised to see BraggsLA among those products listed. I've been using BraggsLA for years & am not aware of any negative reactions to it.
I - personally - find it difficult to believe that the lovely Patricia Bragg has been, intentionally, trying to poison folks all these years. :o) - I always intuitively knew there was something wrong with Bragg's. I'm so glad to be validated!
- I can't vouch for accuracy, but this is taken from Wikipedia:
Many cheaper brands of soy sauces are made from hydrolyzed soy protein instead of brewed from natural bacterial and fungal cultures. They are derogatorily called Chemical Soy Sauce ("化å¸é†¬æ²¹" in Chinese), but despite this name are the most widely used type because they are cheap. Similar products are also sold as "liquid aminos" in the US and Canada.
Some artificial soy sauces pose potential health risks due to their content of the chloropropanols carcinogens 3-MCPD (3-chloro-1,2-propanediol) and all artificial soy sauces came under scrutiny for possible health risks due to the unregulated 1,3-DCP (1,3-dichloro-2-propanol) which are minor byproducts of the hydrochloric acid hydrolysis.
In 2001 the United Kingdom Food Standards Agency found in tests of various low-grade soy sauces (those made from hydrolyzed soy protein, rather than being naturally fermented) that some 22% of samples contained a chemical called 3-MCPD (3-monochloropropane-1,2-diol) at levels considerably higher than those deemed safe by the European Union. About two-thirds of these samples also contained a second chemical called 1,3-DCP (1,3-dichloropropane-2-ol) which experts advise should not be present at any levels in food. Both chemicals have the potential to cause cancer and the Agency recommended that the affected products be withdrawn from shelves and avoided. Furthermore, the latter unregulated chemical can cause genetic damage to be passed on to offspring who never consumed the sauces.
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Those guys at Braggs are pretty clever. Create a super cheap liquid, call it Liquid Amino so that everyone thinks it's good for them, and sell it at a high price. No wonder they are keeping schtum.
- Thanks to everyone for posting their experiences. I have to agree that for MSG sensitive people, Braggs is a no-no. I didnt discover my severe intolerance to MSG until i started living in China. I ate out for all of my meals, had digestive problems and always felt lethargic. To make a long story short, after many hospital visits and examinations, i discovered the reaction on my own. I cut MSG out of my diet and starting feeling great. This was years ago. Recently i went to a health food store and purchased a spray bottle of Braggs. Since i am vegetarian, i thought it would be a convenient way to incorporate more aminos into my diet. This past week, i was spraying it onto soups, stir-fries, and rice. At the same time i started feeling lethargic and confused (brain-fog is the best way to describe it). I was convinced that i had come down with something. Then i made the connection to Braggs. I stopped eating it, and feel clear and healthy again. It may sound crazy to those who can tolerate higher amounts of MSG (by the way, everyone will react to MSG in high enough quantities), but for MSG sensitive people, anything containing MSG is like a poison! Braggs tastes good, but i personally cannot eat it. MSG reactions are strange. I am hoping one day we will discover why some people can tolerate it and some cannot. It is a shame that there are many who are not aware of the relationship between what they consume and how they feel. I do encourage everyone to educate themselves, to observe their bodies and at the same time, not succumb to paranoia.3 people liked this.
- Kalyn (whose food blog is www.KalynsKitchen.com) likes Spike Seasoning. In the comments to her post on Spike there are various comments about the fact that hydrolyzed vegetable protein is a type of glutamine of the MSG variety. From her post on Spike is also a link to a BlogHer post on MSG, talking about naturally formed glutamates and savory tastes, with a number of additional links. http://kalynskitchen.blogspot....
- can anyone tell me if this is true: I've read that oriental MSG is derived naturally from seaweed, and the MSG used in American foods is synthetic. I also read that there are two forms of amino acids, L and R. The L form comprises all that is living (but that is not what the L stands for), and the R is not. If in an amino acid chain just one R form molecule is introduced the chain breaks. So is Braggs L or R amino acid. Is it a natural process as has been proven in the Orient, or a synthetically produced product as so many are in America.
I actually also read that the aged cheese taste and smell is being recreated synthetically so producers could make a cheese in one day and add the chemical to fake the aging process.
well, that is an aside, is Braggs made naturally? Or is it a synthetic? Is American MSG made through a mad doctor's chemistry set and synthetic, or is MSG made naturally as in the Orient.2 people liked this. - Braggs is turning me into a Frankenstein.
If I knew my veins would be popping out, and feel like I am on speed, I never would have taken this junk.
Why are so many recipes calling for it? I have been fooled for the last time by this. Next time I want to drink hydrochloric acid and baking soda, I'll make it myself with tap water instead of spending valuable fiat dollars on it. - wow...I was just wondering if this stuff was raw or not...I have a bottle of it, and am on a raw food 30-day challenge and was looking forward to the salty taste....looks like I won't be touching the stuff!!!!
- Basically, the problem with this stuff is that people using 'too much' of it. Believing it is 'healthy' and 'made out of raw (or not) product' doesn't really mean that you can pour over any food! The liquid amino has 'too much flavor' in it. In my opinion, you should not get yourself used to such strong flavoring masking all the original subtle flavors of ingredients. You'd lose the good sense of tasting veggies' own flavors. Curve spices, salts, etc. If you'd sprinkle just a bit of each, it's so much better. I don't really want to generalize but I tend to notice many Americans tend to use too much soy sauce (tamari, low-sodium, whatever-kind...) and do the same with the 'Bragg's.' Honestly, I feel like 'overwhelmed' by the excess flavoring - just as MSG-dosed food. I'd say... use the spray to the least. (and do not splash too much!)1 person liked this.
- My wife had Braggs last night in some Gespatcho soup with a salad. She had trouble sleeping, developed nausea, a severe migraine and numerous aches and pains. She is very sensitive to MSG. She has food allergies to eggs and citrus. She is also lactose intolerant. No more Braggs for her!
I appreciate the comments from CC that Braggs can emulate MSG problems in sensitive people. - Any time I eat something prepared with Bragg's I get extremely hyper. The exact same response I get when I've eaten something with loads of MSG. I didn't understand why until I read on the net about free glutamic acid. I DO NOT get the symptoms after eating soy -- and I've been vegetarian/vegan for 20 years.
Bragg's makes me jittery, shaky and then I crash with a very low heartrate. In my book it's a fake health food and always will be. - I have begun my raw food diet - i eat poptarts right out of the box now instead of tosting them, and i only microwave my popcorn for half the recommended time so thats considered raw right?
i used Bragg amino acids on a bag of pork rinds and got really sick! i wont use those aminos anymore!1 person liked this. - Today was my first day of taking BLA and actually, I felt rather well after ingesting it. I am not entirely on a “raw” food diet and I do not eat as much protein as would be best for me – so I bought some BLA to supplement my body. As I was surfing through some info on liquid amino’s, I ran across some discrepancies with Bragg and the “quality” of their product. My confusion here is; are the discrepancies concerning it not being a “raw” food, the way that it is processed, or the actual content?
Many people have been negating BLA because they consider it not to be a “raw” food, but in what context do you consider something raw? It is in my studies the specific difference in raw foods vs. processed food is the amount of LIVE enzymes. If you are considering that to be part of the discrepancy- be aware that Amino Acids are NOT enzymes to begin with. These ACIDS are used by the body to PRODUCE enzymes.
If your main concern is about the process of BLA; 1) Hydrochloric Acid is one of the NATURAL acids pumped into the stomach to assist in digesting PROTEINS (and it stimulates the release of certain digestive enzymes). HCL is what helps break down proteins into Amino Acids….So the process of using HCL to soak the soybeans in to break them into the specific individual acids are akin to your own digestive process in your own body. Also – the use of baking soda in it’s moderation to neutralize the “acids” are highly beneficial and are needed to make it consumable.
Now if the issue is of the actual “content” of BLA – There have been medical studies that show that soybeans have a high effective rate of suppressing the Thyroid. People who are Hypothyroid might be affected by consumption of soybeans, but on the flip-side, if people suffer from Adrenal Fatigue (or low Adrenal production) – consuming soybeans in moderation boost Adrenal functions.
All in all – the breakdown of what Braggs Liquid Amino Acids are – they are a form of non-brewed soy sauce. You can web search this type of soy sauce and you will find the process is identical.
I also want to warn people who are concerned with what they are ingesting – to NOT be sucked into the power of AUTOSUGGESTION. It is far too easy for people to blame any negative side effect they have experienced on this product and call it a “poison and a danger”. All this does is freak people out and cause them to subconsciously act upon the “so called dangers”. (E.G. psychologically make themselves ill because someone else told them it would!) If you really want to know the truth about what you eat – then take the time to do your own medical and nutritional research and not let someone else effect you with their own fears….
4 people liked this. - Amen! The person who blames bragg's for the ending of their relationship should read this and get back in touch with reality.
I think the other lesson we should take from this is to listen to our own bodies. If our bodies tell us that bragg's is not a good idea, don't eat bragg's (but get aminos in a different way). If our bodies tell us it's not a problem, or even that it makes us feel good, then we're probably benefiting from it's effects. But the key is everything in moderation.2 people liked this. - LOL, the person who "broke up with girlfriend" is trying to be ironic, he's just goofing on the fact that people blame all their problems on the world, being a victim because they have no power. Other posters correctly suggest that one should look inward, examine/ understand your own internal issues, emotions etc. This world is samsara, it's just a reflection of your inner perceptions and beliefs. That's why people eat raw, they want to purify and clense to achieve clarity of mind body spirit. The raw path is an excellent start to self awareness and realization. But there are many paths on our journey, addressing our physical bodies is a responsible and mindful beginning. Eat to enjoy life & Love to all!1 person liked this.
- Well now I'm confused , the bottle of BLA that I had listed the sodium as 150mg per 1/2 teaspoon . And yes my numbers where wrong, should be 900mg per Tablespoon.
But now I have found Nutritional labels that are different , one lists sodium content as 100mg per 1/2 teaspoon and one lists it at 110mg per teaspoon. Still it has a lot of sodium even at 600mg per Tablespoon.I still believe they are being deceptive in their labeling to the effect of hiding the true sodium content.The use of "Bragg's has a small amount of naturally occurring sodium" No table salt is added(even if it is true) are examples.
I have seen a brewed soy sauce from Trader Joe's that has 460mg per Tablespoon plus I have seen others
Bragg's liquid amino's
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size: 1/2 teaspoon (2.5mL)
Amount per Serving
Calories 0 Calories from Fat 0
% Daily Value *
Total Fat 0g 0%
Saturated Fat 0g 0%
Sodium 150mg 6%
Total Carbohydrate 0.1g 0%
Dietary Fiber 0g 0%
Protein 0%
Est. Percent of Calories from:
Fat 0.0% Carbs 0.0%
Protein 0.0%
Bragg's liquid amino's
Nutrition Facts
Serving size: 0.5 tsp
Amount Per Serving
Calories 0
Calories from Fat 0
Amount Per Serving and/or % Daily Value*
Total Fat 0g (0%)
Saturated Fat 0g (0%)
Cholesterol 0mg (0%)
Sodium 100mg (5%)
Total Carbohydrate 100mg (0%)
Protein 290mg
Amount Per Serving and/or % Daily Value*
Vitamin A 0%
Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 0%
Iron 0%
Bragg's liquid amino's
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 1/2 tsp (2.5 ml)
Servings Per Container
Amount Per Serving
Calories 2 Calories from Fat 0
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 0g 0%
Saturated Fat g
Trans Fat N/A*g
Cholesterol mg
Sodium 110mg 5%
Total Carbohydrate 50g 17%
Dietary Fiber g
Sugars g
Protein 275g
Vitamin A * Vitamin C
Calcium * Iron 2%
* Percent daily values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs: - I wonder why no has mentioned how deceptive the labeling is in regards to sodium content. This product appears to have 960mg of sodium in 1 table spoon(the serving size that is commonly listed on soy sauce). I can not tell you how many times I have seen postings that recommend Bragg's Liquid Amino's as a lower sodium replacement for soy sauce, it's simply not true.
- Hi,
i came accross this website as i am reading Rainbow Green Live Food Cuisine, by Dr gabriel Cousens as i currently am raw for about 18 months and have adrenal stress.
the book talks about no soy sauce, nama shoyu etc, i guess including braggs too,
ok i cannot say braggs or the other soy products caused this, however, EVER SINCE GOING RAW (along with no illnesses and hugely better health and LOTS of positives) i have got spider veins appearing in my legs.
i have always been sure its co-incided with going raw as i'm 37 and never noticably had this prior to raw, just never knew why and hoped i would find the reason out after sorting the adrenal stress.
interesting, be it possibly the MSG or sodium or WHATEVER, its certainly made me think of leaving these products OUT if i care about the spider veins :-).... - About your veins. I think it is very possible a relationship between BLA and your condition but I advise you to work more with some disciplines such as yoga, Qigong and vigorous exercises as well as working with your emotions to get rid of the stress that prevent your body from healing as it is meant to do.
The body is naturally self repairing but our thoughts emotions and stress prevent the healing process from happening.
That's why children tent to heal faster than adults.
Get better informed about raw food. BTW I'm quite surprised that you had that problem after applying the principles of the book you mentioned.
Anyway, controlling what we eat is just one part of the equation.
EFT is one way to work on stress as several other approaches.
Good luck - I don't quite get it. Most of you are saying or inferring that glutamic acid is a poison, yet it's found naturally in most foods. Although it's not an essential amino acid, it does play an important part in our brain function and detoxification of wastes. I know that there are people who are sensitive to it, just like people are sensitive to strawberries, or anything, but it's not the same thing as MSG. If anyone has any comment about that I'd love to hear it and understand your thoughts. And I'm also curious to knwo how it's not a raw food.
The other point I strongly agree with is what Marioques said. What you put in your body physically is only a part of the whole picture as we are not only physical beings. Hearing the anger through the words makes me question that the people with a lot of the problems are concentrating their attention on the physical. If we can get rid of cancer and other diseases by just changing your mind, we must remember to focus on the positives or we'll be taken down, no matter what we eat. Then, like some of you, when you're clear and are open to listen to your body it'll tell you what feels nourishing and not, no matter what the food or situation is.2 people liked this. - Hello Portia and others. Most of us have heard the Vitamin C isolated is not the same and as beneficial as Vitamin C associated with some co-enzymes and nutrients that come with it in real food.
The same way is about aminoacids. They are part of proteins or they can be free and the effect on health is different in each case.
Even if we are talking about substances under the same name they are not the same depending on the molecular structure, such as when something is cook or raw. You cannot sprout a cooked lentil and you can guess that proteins and aminoacids are not the same when they are cooked of processed.
Specifically for you to have a better idea of the difference between MSG and the glutamic acid in real unprocessed food I propose you to read this excellent article http://www.truthinlabeling.org...
So strawberries with pesticides are not the same as the organic ones.
I doubt for good reasons that humans can do better than nature.
Since I put only raw mostly organic quite green unprocessed, delicious food prepared with love I thrive like never before, even 20 years ago.
You don't have to be extreme like I am. But we try here to be aware of the consequences of our food and lifestyle choices.
Keep enjoying life while you get to understand the nuances about our healthy choices.
Another thing is that even if I said that being happy is much more important, the less you rush behind money, security and approval, the less likely you put cheap food in your body.
I have a very low income and I eat like a king seriously. I look 20 years younger thanks to the way I prioritize my budget and time.
A happy free undomesticated easy going mind doesn't tent put cheap fast food into the body.
Have fun and eat like if you were rich and in vacations.
1 person liked this. - I am a raw 100% for 7 years already and my health and vitality are much better than years ago.
The subject here is weather BLA is bad or not for your health. The main issue is depending on what you mean by health.
From that perspective some will say BLA is not poison (because you don't go to the hospital inmediatly or you don't get a diagnostic that relates your condition to this product.
But we "raw foodists" expect more from life than simply survival.
I'm 49 and I don't care anymore about avoiding sicknesses as I am into rejuvenation.
If you want to thrive you don't want to put just any "normal food" into your body. You want to put life into it.
Sorry for those who can feel offended by my pretencion.
I put food in my body to get health, consciousness and energy not just by habit, or wanting approval, or to avoid boredom or to cope with emotions.
So do as you wish according to your expectations. BLA is far from being live food. - Are you people idiots? Look at the sodium content on the side of the bottle of course it is bad for you if you ingest too much of it. but it is certainly not poison. It is hydrolysed protein, reduced to its constitutive amino acids. It is salty for the same reason that cheese, soy sauce, tamari and miso are salty: MSG!! which, by the way, is not bad for you! some people are sensitive to it, but just sensitive. I wouldn't go putting it in your baby's milk, but for every study that says it is harmful, there are hundreds that have shown it is not.1 person liked this.
- Bragg's liquid aminos ruined my life...and my relationship. At first, my girlfriend and I enjoyed braggs on everything we ate, then day by day, I noticed that my girlfiend was growing increasingly distant. She dumped me altogether last week. I now know that Bragg's Liquid Aminos is to blame for my heartbreak.
(Obviously if you are sensitive/allergic to soy or MSG, Bragg's will affect you negatively. Having a peanut allergy and calling peanuts "poison" doesn't make any sense either. )3 people liked this. - I have been vegan most of my life (I am 24), and raw for the last four years. I think it is safe to say that the purer the diet the more sensitive our bodies become to processed foods. The simpler the diet, the more we are affected by foods that most people tolerate quite well. A side note: While clean bodies are more 'sensitive' to food, they are certainly more effective in cleansing and eliminating harmful toxins (that's why some people mistake the sensitivity of a raw foodist to be a weakness, when in fact that sensitivity proves the very effectiveness of the body's excellent response to toxic invasion)!
As long as I remember I've always had a reaction to ALL soy products. Even when I was vegan I avoided soy as it would cause my face and skin to brake out quite badly. After being a raw foodist for several years I couldn't figure out why my skin didn't clear up completely. (Although there were dramatic improvements). Now I know Bragg's Aminos were to blame.
Addicted to salty BLA I didn't care to make the connection between processed soy and liquid aminos. Now I finally recognize that all processed soy is processed food. Processed foods are not natural - I don't care what natural ingredients/chemistry are used in the manufacturing process! Our bodies are designed to eat living foods in their whole intact form. While for most (including myself) it's been a long transition from vegan to someone who eats 100% purest whole living foods, from experience I say: processed soy in all its shapes and forms is not good for my body. Just like any processed food on the market today.
Are Bragg's Liquid Aminos bad for everyone? People eat worse things than braggs aminos and, well, eventually die prematurely.... but can we raw fooders afford to take chances? The food industries of our 21st century are staging arguably the deadliest experiment. Food can heal or kill - why take chances? Unless the food is a gift from mother earth, we deserve to know how the product is manufactured, and if we are denied that knowledge, the wise thing in my opinion is to simply deny that good as NO GOOD. My body was saying no to BLA way before my mind finally caught up!
2 people liked this. - If you treasure your brain, you'll avoid Bragg's.
It’s liquid MSG. MSG is an ‘excitotoxin’. Excitotoxins stimulate the brain until brain cells die. Scary stuff. Not only that, Bragg’s is actually a self heated product. As it’s being made the temp rises over the raw foods ‘limit’. It’s basically made by pouring chemicals on beans. Please do your research before adding this ‘poison’ called Braggs to raw foods. Did you know the USDA made them take off “no MSG” from their label? It’s because it contains MSG. Google it and you’ll see it’s true. - Well said Maria - I moved into raw foods however prior to that I used Braggs because of the claims made - initially I can't really remember if I had a reaction to the BLA however I can say over time I would get extreme heartburn that even drinking water did not resolve. Before getting the scoup on BLA I did a 20 day water fast and one by one started added back the fruits and vegetables back into my diet. I had no reaction. I had a taste for kale, tomatoes, and garlic - I added BLA and as soon as I ate the kale salad I got the heartburn - I started diluting the BLA until it was almost water and I still got heartburn so I eliminated it completely and I no longer have heartburn at all. This little experniment reminded me that the food industry IS in business to make money, always has been and is supported by the FDA which is all about money at the expense of the people therefore the entire food industry and FDA cannot be trusted to make and/or provide products that are in the best interest of the people. So what is the bottom line - if you don't want problems with you body and you goal is to change you diet to improve YOUR health you will have to take complete responsibility and go completely raw and/or start growing your own fruits and vegetables or simply contend with mild to severe health challenges. You will have to decide if the taste of something is more important than your health. Whatever you decide you must take complete responsibility for all your actions given the political climate we live in.1 person liked this.
- What about the Asian culture's use of msg? They don't "believe" MSG is bad for you...they always laugh at me when I talk about it. I have worked at a restaurant that had a total asian staff. Is there any link to health ailments prevalent among the Asians? I am always hard pressed to find products without MSG in them at the Asian store I frequent.
- I was having a salad just now and all was well until I decided to put some Braggs on some noodles that I added to the salad and now my hands have a weird sensation in them as if I had something with MSG in it. I also noticed that the label said seasoning, glutamic acid and aspartic acid. Whatever process they are using it does the same thing to me as if I had something with MSG in it which I try to avoid because this stuff keeps me up at night. No wonder I've been having problems sleeping lately. NO MORE BRAGGS FOR ME!
- I have been using Bragg Liquid aminos on and off for years, and for the last 8 months have used it quite a bit, on brown rice, in beans and in other foods. I have never noticed any ill feeling from it, my body does not smell like it, I have not snapped any tendons, etc. My goodness, it sounds extremely exaggerated to say that Bragg Liquid Aminos is responsible for serious injury and crawling off the volleyball court. I did come here because I, too, have been looking for the reason why soybeans and water would taste so salty. I appreciate the answer/theory that has been presented. But I seriously doubt Bragg Liquid Aminos is going to cause anyone terribly serious problems. Raw "fanatics" may get upset about feeling they've been duped into eating something cooked that they thought was raw, and I agree that if there has been misrepresentation that it is very wrong. But no one is going to be irreparably damaged from using Bragg Liquid Aminos, in my opinion.4 people liked this.
- You're wrong. People who have a problem with MSG will be harmed by Bragg's. The USDA made them take off "no MSG" from their label because it's a stewed soybean product (heated via chemicals) that results in free glutamic acid/MSG.
MSG is an excitotoxin. Excitotoxins stimulate the brain until brain cells die. Scary stuff. You can confirm this by some web research. - I am on a raw diet and have been for the past 2 years. I started using Bragg's Amino Acids a year ago because it is labeled raw with no salt added and no MSG.
Last night I made lentils and added a little too much Bragg's to the mix. I woke up at 2:00 a.m. extremely thirsty and feeling dehydrated (I drink over 60 oz of pure filtered water daily). After getting a drink, I could not get back to sleep. Today I am quite bloated and still thirsty. I have also had intestinal issues all morning. That is how I ended up on this site, because besides the Bragg's laden beans, I only had my normal raw fruits and vegetables yesterday. I couldn't understand why I was having these severe symptoms today. So is Bragg's good for you?? I would say NOT!!!!!
Alex1 person liked this. - those are the lentils making you bloated, thirsty, and dehydrated too. i remember the first time i made lentils, and they just wreaked havoc on my stomach because i ate a whole pot ^_^3 people liked this.
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